Comments on: Benefits of the Outstanding Student (Lu-Ye Chun လူရည္ခၽြန္) Project http://drkokogyi.wordpress.com/2011/03/14/benefits-of-the-outstanding-student-lu-ye-chun-%e1%80%9c%e1%80%b0%e1%80%9b%e1%80%8a%e1%80%b9%e1%80%81%e1%81%bd%e1%80%bc%e1%80%94%e1%80%b9-project/ Autobiography of Dr Abdul Rahman Zafrudin Tue, 21 May 2013 11:09:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: drkokogyi http://drkokogyi.wordpress.com/2011/03/14/benefits-of-the-outstanding-student-lu-ye-chun-%e1%80%9c%e1%80%b0%e1%80%9b%e1%80%8a%e1%80%b9%e1%80%81%e1%81%bd%e1%80%bc%e1%80%94%e1%80%b9-project/#comment-10095 Mon, 10 Dec 2012 02:46:27 +0000 http://drkokogyi.wordpress.com/?p=13406#comment-10095 TQ. If you have a FB, please join our Luyechun FB @ http://www.facebook.com/groups/luyechun/

]]> By: Aung Kyi Win http://drkokogyi.wordpress.com/2011/03/14/benefits-of-the-outstanding-student-lu-ye-chun-%e1%80%9c%e1%80%b0%e1%80%9b%e1%80%8a%e1%80%b9%e1%80%81%e1%81%bd%e1%80%bc%e1%80%94%e1%80%b9-project/#comment-10094 Mon, 10 Dec 2012 01:37:25 +0000 http://drkokogyi.wordpress.com/?p=13406#comment-10094 I was a 4 time Luyechun award winner and now Chief Research officer of M.O.G.E.I will contribute my knowledge,by all means—.

]]> By: Myint Cho http://drkokogyi.wordpress.com/2011/03/14/benefits-of-the-outstanding-student-lu-ye-chun-%e1%80%9c%e1%80%b0%e1%80%9b%e1%80%8a%e1%80%b9%e1%80%81%e1%81%bd%e1%80%bc%e1%80%94%e1%80%b9-project/#comment-5829 Fri, 17 Feb 2012 07:08:38 +0000 http://drkokogyi.wordpress.com/?p=13406#comment-5829 Sorry for the typo error “bother”. The correct sentence is “They also misunderstood that LYCs were also Lan-zin Youth and “BOTH” were cadres or potential cadres of the ruling Burma Socialist Programme Party (BSPP).

]]> By: Myint Cho http://drkokogyi.wordpress.com/2011/03/14/benefits-of-the-outstanding-student-lu-ye-chun-%e1%80%9c%e1%80%b0%e1%80%9b%e1%80%8a%e1%80%b9%e1%80%81%e1%81%bd%e1%80%bc%e1%80%94%e1%80%b9-project/#comment-5828 Fri, 17 Feb 2012 02:56:49 +0000 http://drkokogyi.wordpress.com/?p=13406#comment-5828 Dear LYC colleagues,

Let me share you with some relevant historical facts.

As far as I recently learned from former senior civil servants who mainly supervised the Luyechun (Outstanding Students) scheme from the very beginning, the LYC Scheme was a brainchild of Burma’s former dictator Gen. Ne Win. He created the LYC Scheme to nurture the bright and knowledgeable students with multiple skills to serve the country after they completed their education. But, he did not forcibly recruit them as cadres of his Burma Socialist Programme Party (BSPP). Nobody exactly knew how and where he got such an idea.

Many people were confused that LYCs were like Lan-zin Youth. They also misunderstood that LYCs were also Lan-zin Youth and bother were cadres or potential cadres of the ruling Burma Socialist Programme Party (BSPP). Although all LYCs were also Lan-zin Youth, LYCs were not cadres of the BSPP. Even, some LYCs were not members of the BSPP. Most LYCs worked in various professional fields, not in the political party.

Gen. Ne Win also created the Lan-zin Youth, Shay-shaung Youth and Tay-za Youth Schemes in (?) 1972/73/74 to recruit young people who must be loyal to the Burma Socialist Programme Party (BSPP) and safeguard the party. Those young people were recruited by giving various privileges and incentives.Those young people must not need to be bright and knowledgeable, but loyal to the party and obedient to the party leaders without questions. He copied such an idea from Union of Soviet Socialist Republic (USSR).

Similarly, Gen. Ne Win created the 1974 constitution, which guaranteed the BSPP to rule the country forever. Actually, U Ba Nyein (not Dr. Maung Maung) drafted it after studying the constitution of German Democratic Republic (GDR) mainly.

I hope this information is useful.

With best regards,
Myint Cho (Pa-an)

]]> By: drkokogyi http://drkokogyi.wordpress.com/2011/03/14/benefits-of-the-outstanding-student-lu-ye-chun-%e1%80%9c%e1%80%b0%e1%80%9b%e1%80%8a%e1%80%b9%e1%80%81%e1%81%bd%e1%80%bc%e1%80%94%e1%80%b9-project/#comment-5198 Thu, 03 Nov 2011 05:03:49 +0000 http://drkokogyi.wordpress.com/?p=13406#comment-5198 Dr. Alfred questioned about LYCs becoming generals. Answer is here:
Myo Kyi Tha
http://sonesiyar.blogspot.com/​2009/01/blog-post_9939.html
အခု ဒုတိယဗုိလ္ခ်ဳပ္ႀကီးထင္တယ္
လူရည္ခၽြန္ ႏွစ္ထပ္ကြမ္း

အျဖဴေရာင္ ေမတၱာ: *လူတစ္ကိုယ္ စိတ္တစ္မ်ိဳး (အရွင္ေမတၱာစာရ ဘေလာ့ႏွင့္ပတ္သတ္၍)*
sonesiyar.blogspot.com
ကၽြန္ေတာ္က ႂကြက္ေန႔ဖြားပါ။ ဒါေပမယ့္ ဘာျဖစ္လို႔လဲ မသိဘူး.. ေၾကာင္ေလးေတြကို တအားခ်စ္တယ္ ခင္ဗ်။ ေၾကာင္ေတြ႔ရင္ မေနႏိုင္ဘူး။ ဆြဲေပြ႔ၿပီး ရင္ခြင္ထဲ ထည့္လိုက္ရမွ ေက်နပ္တာ။ လူရွင္းရင္ ခိုးေတာင္ နမ္းလိုက္ေသးတယ္.. အဟက္…။ ကၽြန္ေတာ့္အေမက အဲဒါကို မႀကိဳက္ဘူး။ ေရာဂါရမွာ စိုးလို႔တဲ့။ ဒါေပမယ့္လည္း လစ္ရင္ ကၽြန္ေတာ္ က…..

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Ko Ko Gyi တေလာကေတာင္ ျပည္နဝေဒးႀကီး ရဲ ႔ရွင္ေႏွာင္း ပိုဒ္စံုရတုတပုဒ္ ကို ကိုယ့္ညီတုိ႔ အတြက္ေရးမယ္လုိ ့ ျပင္ေသးတယ္။

me: ဟုတ္ကဲ့။

M: ေကတုဝင္းထြဋ္ သီခ်င္းရွာမရလို ႔။

8:13 AM me: ညီတို႔ဒီကုိ အလႊတ္ခံရတဲ့ သူေတြက ေျပာရရင္ ၁၀ တန္းတုန္းက ထိပ္ဆိုတဲ့ အထဲကေတြပဲအစ္ကို။ လူေတာ္ေတြေပါ့။ ဒါေပမယ့္ ဒီေရာက္ေတာ့ ပညာထက္ လုပ္ခ်င္ရာ လုပ္ၾကတာမ်ားေနတယ္ အစ္ကိုရာ ႏိုင္ငံအတြက္ ရင္ေလးစရာေပါ့ေလ။

M: ဒုိ ့ေခတ္တုန္းက ဗိုလ္ေလာင္းဆိုတာ တကယ့္လူေတာ္ေတြ ေသခ်ာတယ္။ ခုေတာ့ ကိုယ္လည္း ေသခ်ာမသိဘူး။
လွေဌးဝင္း ကကိုယ္နဲ ့စက္မွဳလုပ္အားေပး ၁၉၇၆ မွာဆံုခဲ့ေသးတယ္၊ တကယ့္လူေတာ္။

me: ဟုတ္ကဲ့

8:15 AM M: အခု ဒုတိယဗုိလ္ခ်ဳပ္ႀကီးထင္တယ္
လူရည္ခၽြန္ ႏွစ္ထပ္ကြမ္း

me: ဗိုလ္မွဴးခ်ဳပ္လွေဌး၀င္း ထင္တယ္
8:16 AM ရန္ကုန္တိုင္းတိုင္းမွဴးေတာ​င္လုပ္လိုက္ေသးတယ္

Nay Oo ဒုဗိုလ္ခ်ဳပ္ႀကီး လွေဌးဝင္း(ယခု ညိွႏိႈင္း ကြပ္ကဲေရးမွဴး (ၾကည္း/ေရ/ေလ)

Myint Cho said: Dear Ko Nay Oo and LYC friends, It will be great if you can research and organise a list of Luyechuns who have served or still serve as military personals. Inviting them to our LYC group and friendly communication with them will be very beneficial. Their opinions on current situation in Burma and their concerns should be heard among us too. As far as I remembered, there are two senior military officers who won Luyechun awards in Pa-an. My senior Ko Soe Htay (? now Brig-Gen) won Luyechun award ?three straight times in Pa-an. Ko San Htun Chein (ex-Air Force officer) also won Luyechun award ?four straight times in Pa-an. But, I have no idea what they do and where they live in Burma now. Similarly, my old friend Yay Mon from ?Kathar was also a Luyechun. He served as Captain in Pa-an in 1988 and gave me a friendly warning not to organise demonstrations in August 1988. Now, he may be a high-ranking military officer too. Despite many differences, I respect the role of military personals not only in the country’s security issue but also in nation-building process. I always wish all Luyechuns from both civilian and military backgrounds meet again as friends and work together for a democratic, peaceful and prosperous Burma in the near future.

Nay Oo ကိုရည္မြန္ (ဗိုလ္??-ၿငိမ္း၊ စာေရးဆရာဦးရန္ေအာင္ေမာင္ေမ​ာင္၏သား) ယခု ညႊန္ၾကားေရးမွဴးခ်ဳပ္ စကၠဴ၊ဓါတုေကာ္ပိုေရးရွင္း၊ ေနျပည္ေတာ္။ကိုတင္ေမာင္ေအးထ​ူး(မင္းဘူး) ညႊန္မွဴး ဆည္ေျမာင္းဦးစီးဌာန၊ ေဒါက္တာ သန္းေဇာ္ျမင့္ (ညႊန္ခ်ဳပ္-ေဆးသိပၸံပညာဦးစ​ီးဌာန၊ ေဒါက္တာမင္းသန္းညြန္႔ (ဒု-ညႊန္ခ်ဳပ္၊က်န္းဦးစီး။​ ေဒါက္တာေဖသက္ခင္- ျပည္ေထာင္စုဝန္ႀကီး၊က်န္းမာ​ေရးဝန္ၿကီးဌာန။ တို႔နဲ႔ နီးနီးကပ္ကပ္ရွိေနပါတယ္။ ကိုေဖနဲ႔ ကိုတင္ေမာင္ေအးထူးကလြဲလို႔ က်န္သူေတြ ေဖ့စ္ဘြတ္ခ္မွာ မေတြ႕မိပါ။
ကိုေဖနဲ႔ ေတြ႕ခဲတုံးက သူ လက္တန္းေျပာျပတာတိုင္းမွဴးန​ဲ႔ ဗိုလ္မွဴးခ်ဳပ္အထက္ လူရည္ခၽြန္ ၇ ေယာက္မက ရွိပါတယ္။ ကၽြန္ေတာ္ မွတ္မထားမိပါ။ ကိုယ့္အျမင္ေတာ့ အဖြဲ႕အစည္းရဲ႕မူဝါဒ၊ သေဘာထား အမူအက်င့္ အရ၊ တပ္မေတာ္အရာရွိ လူရည္ခၽြန္ သူငယ္ခ်င္းမ်ားရဲ႕နိုင္ငံေရ​းအေပၚ လြတ္လပ္ ပြင့္လင္းတဲ့ အျမင္သေဘာထားကို ဆိုရွယ္မီဒီယာေပၚမွာ ျမင္ေတြ႕ဖို႔ မျဖစ္နိုင္ဘူး ထင္မိပါတယ္။

Myint Cho Thank you so much for this information. I agree with you Ko Nay Oo.

]]> By: drkokogyi http://drkokogyi.wordpress.com/2011/03/14/benefits-of-the-outstanding-student-lu-ye-chun-%e1%80%9c%e1%80%b0%e1%80%9b%e1%80%8a%e1%80%b9%e1%80%81%e1%81%bd%e1%80%bc%e1%80%94%e1%80%b9-project/#comment-4172 Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:27:14 +0000 http://drkokogyi.wordpress.com/?p=13406#comment-4172 Took from Dr Nay Oo’s posting in LYC FB Group …
နဝတ တက္လာၿပီး ပထမပိုင္းမွာ အာဏာကို ရည္ရွည္ကိုင္ထားဖို႔မရွိလို႔ ဝန္ႀကီးဌာနေတြကို နည္းနည္းပဲ တြဲကိုင္ထားၿပီး အဓိကလုပ္ငန္းေတြပဲ လုပ္မယ္ေျပာထားခဲ့တယ္။ ေနာက္ပိုင္းပညာေရးဝန္ႀကီးဌာန သီးသန္႔ခြဲထုတ္ၿပီး ဗိုလ္ခင္ညြန္႕ အမ်ဳိးသားပညာ…ေရးေကာ္မီတီ ဥကၠဌ ျဖစ္တဲ့အခ်ိန္က်ေတာ့ ဌာနအလိုက္ အရင္လုပ္ငန္းေတြကို လုပ္နိုင္ဖို႔ စီမံကိန္းေတြ ျပန္တင္ျပခိုင္းေတာ့ အေျခခံပညာဦးစီးဌာန၊ ေက်ာင္းသားေရးရာဌာန၊လူရည္ခၽြန္အဖြဲ႕စု က လူရည္ခၽြန္စီမံကိန္းကို အရင္ဘယ္လိုလုပ္ခဲ့တယ္ဆိုတာ တင္ျပခဲ့တယ္။
ပထမအႀကိမ္ျပန္တင္ေတာ့ ဘာမွ မေျပာပဲေနခဲ့တယ္။
ေနာက္တစ္ႀကိမ္ အစည္းအေဝးမွာ ထပ္တင္ျပန္ေတာ့.. ေနာက္ကို တင္ျပဖို႔ သီးသန္႔မေတာင္းပဲ မတင္ျပပါနဲ႕လို႔ တုံ႔ျပန္ခဲ့တယ္လို႔ လူရည္ခၽြန္ဌာနစုက အရာရွိတေယာက္ ကိုယ္တိုင္ေျပာျပခဲ့တာကို ကိုယ္တိုင္သိခဲ့ရတယ္။

]]> By: drkokogyi http://drkokogyi.wordpress.com/2011/03/14/benefits-of-the-outstanding-student-lu-ye-chun-%e1%80%9c%e1%80%b0%e1%80%9b%e1%80%8a%e1%80%b9%e1%80%81%e1%81%bd%e1%80%bc%e1%80%94%e1%80%b9-project/#comment-4171 Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:24:57 +0000 http://drkokogyi.wordpress.com/?p=13406#comment-4171 Took from Luyechun FB Group by Dr Nay Oo (Luyechun)
(TQ Dr Ne Oo, I just copy your postings here to get more facts about LYCs.

ျမန္မာႏိုင္ငံမွာ တခ်ိန္က ရွိခဲ့တဲ့ ေက်ာင္းသားေတြ တိုးတက္မႈကို အားေပးခဲ့ လူရည္ခြၽန္စီမံကိန္းေတြ ဘာေၾကာင့္ ရပ္သြား ရတာလဲ၊
လူငယ္ေတြ အဖြဲ႔အစည္းသေဘာ စုေပါင္းလုပ္ေဆာင္တတ္ေရးနဲ႔ အမ်ားအက်ဳိး သယ္ပိုးေစေရးအတြက္ အရင္က စာတတ္ေျမာက္ေရးမွာ တကၠသိုလ္ေက်ာင္းသားေတြ စုေပါင္းလုပ္ေဆာင္ေစ သလိုမ်ဳိး စီမံကိန္းေတြ မရွိေတာ့တာ ဘာေၾကာင့္လဲ၊ (နဝတ)… တက္ၿပီးေနာက္ပိုင္း လုပ္ခဲ့တဲ့ ေက်ာင္းသား ပြဲေတာ္ေတြ ဘာေၾကာင့္ ရပ္သြားတာလဲ၊
Nay Oo သည္အခ်ိန္မွာ အေရးပါဆုံးကေတာ႔ ႏိုင္ငံေတာ္ရဲ႕ က႑ပါပဲ။ မိဘကေမြးေကၽြးသုတ္သင္ၿပီးခဲ႔ၿပီ။ ဆရာက သြန္သင္ဆုံးမၿပီးခဲ႔ၿပီ။ ဒီလူငယ္ေတြကိုိ လူ႔ေဘာင္္ေလာက ထဲမွာ ေနရာတခု ဖန္တီးေပးရေတာ႔မယ္။
အရင္ မဆလေခတ္တုန္းကေတာ႔ အသုံးခ်ဖို႔ ခိုင္းေကာင္းဖို႔ ေတဇလူငယ္ ေရွ႔ေဆာင္လူငယ္ လမ္းစဥ္လူငယ္ ဆိုၿပီး သူတို႔လိုခ်င္တဲ႔ပုံစံကို ရိုက္သြင္းခဲ႔ပါတယ္။
လူရည္ခၽြန္စီမံကိန္းဆိုၿပီး လက္ေရြးစင္လူငယ္ေတြကို ပါတီႏိုင္ငံေရး အေတြးအေခၚေတြလည္း သင္ၾကားျဖားေယာင္းခဲ႔တာပဲ။ ဒါေပမယ္႔ အႀကိမ္ႀကိမ္ ေက်ာခ်ပါမ်ားလို႔ ဓားျပမွန္း ေကာင္းေကာင္းႀကီး ရိပ္စားလာမိတဲ႔အခါမွာ လူငယ္နဲ႔ လူႀကီးေတြ အၾကားမွာ ေစ႔စပ္လို႔မရတဲ႔ အက္ရာထင္လာခဲ႔တာ ကေန႔အခါမွာပါ။

]]> By: drkokogyi http://drkokogyi.wordpress.com/2011/03/14/benefits-of-the-outstanding-student-lu-ye-chun-%e1%80%9c%e1%80%b0%e1%80%9b%e1%80%8a%e1%80%b9%e1%80%81%e1%81%bd%e1%80%bc%e1%80%94%e1%80%b9-project/#comment-4108 Tue, 15 Mar 2011 06:18:21 +0000 http://drkokogyi.wordpress.com/?p=13406#comment-4108 Alfred Balwin Nyi Lay Ko, Never apologize. It is a sign of weakness. I am just exchanging view points. In this competitive world. Lu Ye Chun are afraid of failure. True leadership is not afraid of failure. If you study world leaders most of them are last in their class including Sir Winston Churchill. But he was the finest leader during the WWII, England ever produced.

]]> By: drkokogyi http://drkokogyi.wordpress.com/2011/03/14/benefits-of-the-outstanding-student-lu-ye-chun-%e1%80%9c%e1%80%b0%e1%80%9b%e1%80%8a%e1%80%b9%e1%80%81%e1%81%bd%e1%80%bc%e1%80%94%e1%80%b9-project/#comment-4089 Tue, 15 Mar 2011 06:07:16 +0000 http://drkokogyi.wordpress.com/?p=13406#comment-4089 Ko Ko Gyi Dear Ahkogyi, I have read the Pollyanna (in Burmese & Eng) for 50 times and Dale Carnegie’s How to stop Worrying and start living for more than a dozen times (Eng & U Nu’s translation) to withstand or fight back numerous shocks of life. Sometimes almost broke down or up to the brink of wishing to go to another life. I even started my blog to leave behind my POINT OF VIEW for my grandchildren because numerous friends (not fro FB) and relatives are willing to exagerate bad things but totally ignored my good deeds and struggle. So my blog is just to show off from my POV to countre them. I am just a normal human with a mixture of good and bad, failures and some success but I am not a saint and am not writting any bad things about me. Please forgive me brother.

]]> By: drkokogyi http://drkokogyi.wordpress.com/2011/03/14/benefits-of-the-outstanding-student-lu-ye-chun-%e1%80%9c%e1%80%b0%e1%80%9b%e1%80%8a%e1%80%b9%e1%80%81%e1%81%bd%e1%80%bc%e1%80%94%e1%80%b9-project/#comment-4088 Tue, 15 Mar 2011 05:39:53 +0000 http://drkokogyi.wordpress.com/?p=13406#comment-4088 Comments copied from my FB
May Barani Naing: တကယ္အားက်ဖို.ေကာင္းတယ္။ဘာလို.ဆက္မေပးေတာ.တာလဲမသိဘုးေနာ္။
Ko Ko Gyi: I hope and pray that LYC PTK (MOH), LYC Dr TW (Rector) and other LYC Rectors/Professors/Head of Dpts should give pressure to the authorities to REVIVE this programme.
Dr Alfred Balwin: Nyi Lay Ko, How is Lu Ye Chun selected? Due to their merit or somebody’s son? I don’t see any Lu Ye Chun Generals. I like two questions put up by Saya Dr. Maung Maung Nyo.You skip them. Why? I am not a Lu Ye Chun but I can withstand any shock of life!
Ko Ko Gyi : Bright students had to compete at the school level, township and district level in General Knowledge, Burmese language, Maths and Physical fitness competition. General Knowledge covers the Burma/world history, geography, politics and of course also cover the BSPP and Government. Physical fitness competition was general PE, push-ups @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Push-up, sit-ups @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sit-up_(exercise), Standing long jump competition @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_long_jump , shot put @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shot_put and (Track Running) Sprints @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprint_(running).

No, Luyechuns were not similar to Boy scouts at Boy scout Jamboree
nor were they similar to Communist Young Pioneers. LYC may have some common features and activities as a uniformed youth activities, at least during the camping period but afterwards there was SADLY no organization or association at all. We asked and requested since that time but authorities ignored totally without any response.
Congratulations Ahkogyi for although OFFICAALLY not a Lu Ye Chun, but you are also a LYC of your own. Yes not the Gen Ne Win’s Revolution Council endorsed LYC but YOU ARE A LUYE CHUN because you are a high achiever and could even withstand any shock of life, the quality most the the so called Ne Win endorsed LYC (including me) are struggling out our lives abroad and in Myanmar.

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