Lets all Muslims of Myanmar be UNITED inspite of differences

Few of my friends and some of my other BEST FRIENDS  opposed the idea of Unity in Diversity proposed by me.

Actually I have learnt that they could accept ALL others even NONMUSLIMS as friends or partners BUT could not accept the deviant groups under the banner of “FELLOW MUSLIMS.”

So if they (the deviants) declare that they are not Muslims…they would accept them and work together. But as far as I know…every body thought they are right and who would declare that they are no more Muslims. (Even if they declare like that there could be some punishments according to our religion)

And ALLAH swt is the only ULTIMATE AUTHORITY to decide who is a Muslim.

Even IF WE (My above friends and I .)..(Actually my faith is exactly same as them)
are right (I believe we R right)…who knows the others deviants who would never taubat and turn back to our RIGHT PATH as true Muslims. So just because a Muslim is a gay…is it right to outcast him and forced him to renounce Islam?

I believe we don’t have the moral and LEGAL AUTHORITY to do that.

Even if I have I don’t wish to do that.

I am not asking to be in unity in prayers or RELIGIOUS ACTIVITIES, may be if I call it religious Islam. I am talking about POLITICAL ISLAM but some of my friends could not understand or accept it.

When the 969 Terrorist Buddhist Bamas and Rakhines assault, loot, kill or burn Muslims and their properties they never ask whether you are Sunni, Shia, Rohingya, Pathi, Indian mixed blooded Muslims or from other deviant Muslim groups. They just done Massacre and atrocities on ALL the Muslims.

So I am asking all so called Muslims to be united under the banner, “Unity in Diversity” but I am sad that our friends keep on attacking that concept.

Saya Dr U Myint Thein, U Aung Tin, Ko Kyaw Zwa Lwin etc have done and EXCELLENT JOB to organize the Muslims of Myanmar.

I hope and pray that their struggles would be accepted and promoted by Allah swt.

I hope and pray that my dear friends KTZO and Hay Shan would reconsider their opposition to Dr U Myint Thein, U Aung Tin, Ko Kyaw Zwa Lwin and others efforts.

Note: I am not the follower of that group and not a leader of anyone. I am just an old man with some experience in politics. Please forgive me for my ignorance in Islamic knowledge as ALL the above persons have much better knowledge in Islamic knowledge than me.

But I hope I have more experience in POLITICAL ISLAM to those who are opposing the conference and UNITY.

If we discriminate or FIGHT or OPPOSE others because they are DIFFERENT FROM US or their race and religion are different to us, all the others could also look down and discriminate on us because we are also NOT SIMILAR to them !

For decades, thousands of people have been victims of discrimination, preferences and exclusions in view of their race, skin color, sex, religion, language, national or ethnic origin and form of expression, causing extreme suffering and even loss of life.Racial discrimination is the ability or power to make distinctions among people based on race, color, decent, national or ethnic origin rather than individual merit.
Xenophobia is a fear of the foreign, of what is strange.
Religious intolerance occurs when someone’s opinions and beliefs are not respected by others due to their religion or way of thinking.

Thant Zin Htwe>>>Respect u too much

Maung Maung Ko>>>Despite of differences in religious deciplines..and political opinion, we should at this time of crisis hold our hands together and stay together. I agree with dr ko ko gyi. Most important is we should learn how to sollow our pride.

Dr. Saw Aung >>>I totally agree with Dr. Ko Ko Gyi . This is the high time for unity among us , atleast temporary negotiation. It is not the time to do debate on sects and akidah. They assumes us as Muslim and make trouble to all. Be witty and broadminded as Dr.KKG advised.

I have clearly wrote above…To repeat who knows the others deviants who would never taubat and turn back to our RIGHT PATH as true Muslims. So just because a Muslim is a gay…is it right to outcast him and forced him to renounce Islam?

I believe we don’t have the moral and LEGAL AUTHORITY to do that.

Even if I have I don’t wish to do that….About Ko HLO’s Quran translation…I don’t accept that. But he is not a Kardiani. NO one have the authority to force him to renounce Islam. We need to look at the present and FUTURE. I know what he is doing now. Even if others refuse…I would support his present work and struggles for Muslims of Myanmar. BUT if he dare to bring up his concepts in his translation…I will oppose him. NOTE: He is not my leader and I am not his leader. I never met or even talk to him on phone.

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ကိုယ့္ေပါင္ကိုယ္လွန္ေထာင္းျခင္း
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Islam ဘာသာဝင္အခ်င္းခ်င္းမတိုက္ ခိုက္ၾကပါနဲ႔ ။

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လဲခ်ြတ္ရြင္းခ်က္ရွိတယ္။

လူသားပဲဗ်ာ ဂြန္နာေတာ့ဘယ္ကင္းပါ့မလဲဒါကိုေထာက္ျပေဝဖန္ေနလို ့လဲ ကိုယ့္ေပါင္ကိုယ္လွန္ေထာင္းတာကလြဲလို ့ဘာမွျဖစ္မလာဘူး။ ကဲခုတစ္ဦးနွင့္တစ္ဦးတိုက္ခိုက္တယ္ တစ္ေယာက္ကအက်င့္ပ်က္တဲ႔သူကိုတိုက္ခိုက္တယ္အဲ႔မွာေနာက္တစ္ဦးကအလုပ္ကိုထိခိုက္တယ္ဆိုျပီးျပန္တိုက္ခိုက္တယ္။အဲ႔မွာအျမင္မတူမႈေတြျဖစ္လာတယ္ ။ေနာက္ဆက္တြဲျပႆနာကေတာ့တစ္ ေယာက္နဲ႔တစ္ေယာက္အပုတ္ခ်တဲ႕အဆင့္လဲေယာက္ေကာ ကာဖာရ္ ကဝမ္းသာျပီးကိုယ့္ကိုနိွပ္ကြတ္ေတာ့တာပဲ။

ဒါေတြအားလံုးကမူဆလမံအ ခ်င္းခ်င္းမညီညြတ္လို ့မတည့္လို ့အခ်င္းခ်င္းေဝဖန္
ေနလို ့ျဖစ္တာေတြခ်ည္းပဲ။ ၉၆၉ ျပႆ နာျငိမ္သြား
ျပီဆိုတာနဲ႕။ ကိုယ့္အခ်င္းခ်င္းျပႆ နာကတစ္စခန္း
ျပန္ထေတာ့တာပဲ။ဘယ္ေနရာကမ်ားေကာင္း
ကြက္ရွိလဲ? ခင္ဗ်ားတို ့စဥ္းစားၾကည့္ပါ။အီမာန္ရွင္
လို ့ကိုယ့္ကို ကိုယ္ခံယူရင္ အားလံုးလက္တြဲပါ ။
ဘယ္အေၾကာင္းနဲ႕ပဲျဖစ္ျဖစ္လက္တြဲမျဖုတ္ပါနဲ႕။
မူဆလင္မ္ေတြရဲ႕အနာဂတ္ဟာအားလံုးအေပါ ္မွာ
အားလံုးရဲ႕လက္ထဲမွာရွိတယ္ဆိုတာ။အားလံုး
က်ြန္ေတာ့ထက္ပိုျပီးနားလည္ပါတယ္။က်ြန္ေတာ္
တံုးပါတယ္ခင္ဗ်ား ဥဏ္မွီသေလာက္ေလးေရးသား
ေဖါ ္ျပျခင္းသာျဖစ္ပါသည္။

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လူငယ္ညီညြတ္ေရးပဲခူးတိုင္းအေရွ႕ျခမ္း

Read Unity in Diversity here.

Htoon NoothDear my respected Dr. Ko Ko Gyi, 1) I’m not a religious scholar and you’re not a doctor of theology too. So It’s better we don’t discuss or debate this kind of issue here, and it’s the best not to discuss or debate anything at all. 2) You’re one of the sincerest person I’ve ever come across, but I think you’re too emotional and this kind of post obviously proves it. 3) I accept diversity fully, but not deviation. [Homosexuality is deviation, not diversity. Claiming Jesus has a father, which means Mary had sex, is not diversity, it’s outrage deviation.] 4) Sorry I’d need to pinpoint again that your understanding of “Political Islam” is very wrong. 5) I’m concern that this post could lead to another round of arguments among our brothers, even though you intend different and I’d suggest to remove this post and not to write this kind of post. Thank you and Allah hafiz! May Allah Almighty make us unite and bless our fraternity

Ko Ko GyiKo Htoon Nooth…yes U R partly right. But I could not accept your advice. So we need to agree to disagree but stay as friends and hope we could walk our different path but stay as FRIENDS for ever and combine forces on MUTUALLY agreed projects.

I wrote this because Ko Htoon Nooth started with tagging me>>>Ko Ko Gyi was tagged in a post….ကဲ ဒိုင္ဗာစီတီေလး အားေပးပါဦးဗ်ာ

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Ko Ko GyiI have clearly wrote above…To repeat who knows the others deviants who would never taubat and turn back to our RIGHT PATH as true Muslims. So just because a Muslim is a gay…is it right to outcast him and forced him to renounce Islam?

I believe we don’t have the moral and LEGAL AUTHORITY to do that.

Even if I have I don’t wish to do that….About Ko HLO’s Quran translation…I don’t accept that. But he is not a Kardiani. NO one have the authority to force him to renounce Islam. We need to look at the present and FUTURE. I know what he is doing now. Even if others refuse…I would support his present work and struggles for Muslims of Myanmar. BUT if he dare to bring up his concepts in his translation…I will oppose him. NOTE: He is not my leader and I am not his leader. I never met or even talk to him on phone.

One Response to “Lets all Muslims of Myanmar be UNITED inspite of differences”

  1. drkokogyi Says:

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    စည္းလုံးညီညြတ္မႈအေရးၾကီးပုံ(၅)

    က်မ္းျမတ္ကုရ္အာန္သည္ တမန္ေတာ္ျမတ္ မုဟမၼဒ္(အရွင္ ၏ျငိမ္းေအးမႈ အေပါင္း ခေညာင္းပါေစ) ထံသုိ႔ ဗ်ာဒိတ္အျဖစ္ က်ခ႔ဲ ေသာ က်မ္းဂန္ျဖစ္ပါေသာ္လည္း ထုိ က်မ္း ပါ ဥပေဒမ်ားတြင္ တမန္ေတာ္ျမတ္အတြက္ လုိက္နာ ရန္မလုိေသာ တမန္ေတာ္ အ တြက္ ပလပ္ထားေသာ ဥပေဒမ်ားဟူ၍ အလ်င္းမရွိ ခ႔ဲေၾကာင္းႏွင္႔ တ မန္ေတာ္ျမတ္ သည္ က်မ္းျမတ္ ကုရ္အာန္ ႏွင္႔ ျမူမႈံမွ် ဆန္႔က်င္ေျပာဆုိ က်င္႔ ၾကံခ႔ဲမႈမရွိ ခ႔ဲေၾကာင္း ကုိ (က်မ္းျမတ္ကုရ္အာန္၇း၂၀၃) တစ္ခုတည္းႏွင္႔ပင္ သိရွိႏႈိင္ေပ သည္။

    ” Say, “I only follow what is revealed to me from my Lord. This [Qur’an] is enlightenment from your Lord and guidance and mercy for a people who believe.”

    (တမန္ေတာ္) အသင္သည္ ၄င္းတုိ႔အား (ဤသုိ႔ေျပာၾကားလုိက္ပါေလ။) ငါသည္ငါ၏ အရွင္ ထံမွဗ်ာဒိတ္အျဖစ္ ခ်ေပးခ႔ဲေသာ ကုရ္အာန္အတုိင္းသာ ဖ၀ါးထပ္တူလုိက္ နာ က်င္႔သုံး သူ ျဖစ္သည္။ ထုိဗ်ာဒိတ္မ်ားသာလွ်င္ အသင္တုိ႔၏ အရွင္ထံမွ ထင္ရွားေသာ အေထာက္အ ထားမ်ားျဖစ္ျပီး၊ သက္၀င္ယုံၾကည္ သူမ်ားအဖုိ႔ လမ္းညႊန္မႈႏွင္႔ ဂရု ဏာျဖစ္သည္။)

    မြတ္စလင္မ္မ်ား အတြင္းတြင္ က်မ္းျမတ္ကုရ္အာန္က အထပ္ထပ္တားဆီးပိတ္ပင္ ထားေသာေက်ာင္းေတာ္ ၀ါဒမ်ားကုိယ္ စီျဖင္႔ မတူညီေသာ ဂုိဏ္းကြဲေပါင္းျမာက္ျမား စြာ က ေရွးယၡင္ကတည္း ထဲက ရွိႏွင္႔ျပီးျဖစ္သည္။

    ထုိမတူညီေသာ ဂုိဏ္ကြဲမ်ား ႏွင္႔ အတူ မတူညီေသာ ဘာသာ ေရးအဖြဲ႔အစည္း မ်ား သည္လည္း မ်ားစြာေပၚေပါက္ လာရေတာ႔ သည္။

    မည္သုိ႔ပင္ ဆုိေစ ဂုိဏ္းဂဏ ၀ါဒီမ်ား၏ တူညီေနေသာ အခ်က္မ်ားမွာ မိမိတုိ႔ ဆြဲကုိင္ ထား ၾကေသာအယူ ၀ါဒမ်ားမွလြဲ၍ မိမိတုိ႔ ႏွင္႔မတူေသာ အယူ၀ါဒမ်ားသည္ မွား ယြင္းေသာ အယူမ်ားျဖစ္ သည္ဟူေသာ အခ်က္ပင္ျဖစ္သည္။

    အျခားတူညီေနေသာ အခ်က္တစ္ခ်က္ မွာ မိမိတုိ႔ဆြဲကုိင္ထားေသာ ၀ါဒလမ္းစဥ္ ကုိျဖစ္ေစ၊ မိမိတုိ႔ႏွင္႔ မတူညီေသာ၀ါဒ လမ္းစဥ္ ကုိျဖစ္ေစ၊ မွန္မမွန္ စမ္းစစ္ ရာတြင္ က်မ္းျမတ္ကုရ္အာန္ကုိ မွတ္ေက်ာက္အျဖစ္ စံမထားဘဲ မိမိတုိ႔၏ေက်ာင္းေတာ္ ၀ါဒ စံမ်ား မိမိတုိ႔ ယုံၾကည္ကုိးစားေသာ ဆရာမ်ား၏ အယူ၀ါဒျဖင္႔သာ ခ်င္႔ ခ်ိန္တုိင္းတာ တတ္ျခင္းျဖစ္သည္။

    ထုိသုိ႔ေသာ ေရွးက်မ္းရမ်ားနည္းတူ ေက်ာင္းေတာ္၀ါဒမ်ား၊ ဂုိဏ္းဂဏ၀ါဒမ်ား၊ ပုပ္ရ ဟန္း ၀ါဒမ်ားေၾကာင္႔ မြတ္စလင္မ္ အခ်င္းခ်င္းျဖစ္ပါလွ်က္ တစ္ဖက္ကုိတစ္ဖက္ ပုတ္ ခတ္ျခင္းမ်ား သည္ အေသာမသတ္ႏႈိင္ေတာ႔ဘဲ ေသာၾကာေန႔ ဗလီ၀တ္ေက်ာင္းမ်ား အတြင္း တရားေရ ေအး တုိက္ေၾကြးရမည္႔အစား တစ္ဖက္ကုိ တစ္ဖက္ အမည္ နာမ မ်ားႏွင္႔တကြ တုိက္ခုိက္ ေနမႈမ်ားေၾကာင္႔ ဗလီ၀တ္ေက်ာင္းမ်ားသည္ မြတ္စလင္မ္ အခ်င္းခ်င္းျပိဳ ကြဲေစရန္အတြက္ တုိက္ပြဲတြင္ အသုံးခ်ေသာ ကင္းပုံးမ်ားျဖစ္ လာရုံ မက ႏွစ္ဆယ္႔တစ္ရာစု အတြက္ စစ္တလင္းအျဖစ္သုိ႔ပင္ ေရာက္ရွိ လာေတာ႔သည္။

    ဗလီ၀တ္ေက်ာင္းမ်ားမွ ေခါင္းေဆာင္ ဆရာေတာ္မ်ား၏ အပါတ္စဥ္စံျပ သင္ၾကားေပး လွ်က္ရွိေသာ စံနမူနာမ်ားသည္ အသိ ဥာဏ္ဖြ႔႔ံျဖိဳး တုိးတက္မႈ နည္းေန ေသးေသာ အျပစ္ကင္းစင္သည္႔ မ်ဳိးဆက္သစ္ မြတ္ စလင္မ္ လူငယ္လူရြယ္မ်ားအဖုိ႔ မြတ္စလင္မ္ အခ်င္း ခ်င္းတုိက္ခုိက္ေျပာဆုိမႈမ်ားသည္ မြတ္စလင္မ္မ်ား လက္ေတြ႔ျပဳ ကုိျပဳရမည္႔ က်မ္းျမတ္ ကုရ္အာန္ ကျပဌာန္းထားေသာ ဥပေဒမ်ားဟု ခံယူလာေတာ႔သည္။

    ထုိ႔အတြက္ေၾကာင္႔ မြတ္စလင္မ္လူငယ္မ်ားသည္ ၀ါဒမတူေသာ အျခားမြတ္ စလင္မ္ မ်ားကုိ တုိက္ခုိက္ထုိးႏွက္ ၾကရုံမကဘဲ ၀ါဒမတူသူ မြတ္စလင္မ္မ်ား ဆုံးရႈံးနစ္နာမႈ၊ အရွက္တကြဲအက်ဳိးနည္းမႈမ်ား ကုိပါ ၀မ္းသာအားရ အင္တာ နက္ မ်ားမွေဆာင္း ပါးမ်ားေရးလွ်က္ အီးေမးလ္မ်ားျဖန္႔ေ၀ လွ်က္ ရွိေနသည္ကုိ ၀မ္းနည္းဖြယ္ရာေတြ႔ရွိ ရေနရ ေပ သည္။

    အမွန္တစ္ကယ္အားျဖင္႔ မြတ္စလင္မ္မ်ား ဒုကၡေရာက္သည္ကုိ ၀မ္းသာအယ္လဲျဖစ္ ၾကေသာသူမ်ားအေၾကာင္းကုိ က်မ္းျမတ္ကုရ္အာန္တြင္ ထုိက႔ဲသုိ႔ေဖၚျပထားသည္ ကုိေတြ႔ ရေပသည္။

    If good touches you, it distresses them; but if harm strikes you, they rejoice at it. And if you are patient and fear Allah , their plot will not harm you at all. Indeed, Allah is encompassing of what they do.(3;120)

    အကယ္၍ အသင္တို႔၌ ေကာင္းက်ိဳးခ်မ္းသာ တစ္စံုတစ္ရာ ျဖစ္ေပၚလာခဲ့ပါမူ၊ ထိုသူတို႔ အား စိတ္ဒုကၡေရာက္ေစ၏။ သို႔ရာတြင္ အသင္တို႔၌ တစ္စံုတစ္ရာ ေဘးအႏၲရာယ္ ဆိုက္ေရာက္ သည္ရိွေသာ္၊ ယင္းသူတို႔သည္ ၀မ္းသာအားရ ျဖစ္ၾကေလသတည္း။

    အမွန္ စင္စစ္ေသာ္ကား အကယ္၍သာ သင္တို႔သည္ သည္းခံျခင္းတရား ထားရွိ၍ျပစ္ မႈစ႐ိုက္မ်ားမွ ၾကဥ္ေရွာင္ၾကပါမူ၊ ထိုသူတို႔၏ လွ်ဳိ႕၀ွက္ႀကံစည္မႈသည္ အသင္တို႔အား လံုး၀ နစ္နာေစႏုိင္ မည္မဟုတ္ေပ။

    မုခ် အမွန္ အလႅာဟ္အရွင္ျမတ္သည္ ထိုသူတို႔ ျပဳလုပ္ၾကကုန္ေသာ ကိစၥအရပ္ရပ္ တို႔ ကို အၾကြင္းမဲ့ သိရိွေတာ္မူေသာ အရွင္ျမတ္ပင္ ျဖစ္ေတာ္မူေပသတည္း။ (၃း၁၂၀)

    ထုိက႔ဲသုိ႔ က်မ္းျမတ္ကုရ္အာန္ပါ ျပဌာန္းခ်က္မ်ားကုိ မြတ္စလင္မ္အမ်ားစု အထူးသျဖင္႔ မြတ္ စလင္မ္မ်ားကုိ ဦးေဆာင္ေသာ ေရွ႔ေဆာင္အမ်ားစုက သိရွိၾကမည္ဆုိပါက မြတ္ စလင္မ္ မ်ား၏ ရန္သူ(မယုံသူမ်ား) ကျပဳလုပ္ေသာ ကိစၥအ၀၀ကုိ မည္သည္႔မြတ္စ လင္မ္ တစ္ဦး တစ္ေယာက္ကမွ် ထုိအမႈကုိက်ဴးလြန္ၾကမည္မဟုတ္ေပ။

    ထုိကဲ႔သုိ႔ မြတ္စလင္မ္မ်ားအ တြင္း အိမ္ၾကက္ ခ်င္း အုိးမဲသုတ္၍ ခြပ္ခုိင္းသည္႔ႏွယ္ တစ္ဦးကုိတစ္ဦး တုိက္ခုိက္ေနသည္႔ စနစ္ၾကီးျဖစ္ေပၚလာရျခင္းမွာ ေသြးရုိးသားရုိး မဟုတ္ေပ။ ထုိစနစ္ၾကီးျဖစ္ေပၚလာရန္ အ ကြက္က်က် စီစဥ္ ခံ ရျခင္းျဖစ္သည္။

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